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[punkmaster_ian]

they'll be muslim extremists lately it always is, i mean most ppl dont like america but dont take it to such extreme's as they do. as to how many people will actually be guilty and get convicted is another question though.

[InterfekteR]

they only geta way with printing crap, because idiots keep reading it.


oh on the news now, there has been reports of high up national security people suggesting inside plots and so on, so im not the only one wearing the tinfoil hat  

[-Luke-]

There's a conspiracy theory and group of sceptics for every story that hits the papers. It's a wonder the government ever get any work done in amongst their busy schedule of conspiring against its own people.

[ManFriday]

The government couldn't even bring the Millenium Dome in on budget, nor doing too well with the ID Cards.  Do you really think they'd be able to do something as precise as this without some kind of 'spanner in the works'

I bet Prezza is bricking his pants, second day in charge and he's in it deep!

[punkmaster_ian]

thats why they leave john prescott in charge of the country and tony blair always leaves the country in times of peril  

[Burt_cocain]

They're gonna fly a plane into garlands. Fucking AOL! Its them Saudis that own it. Good thing I have my foil hat & tinned bread. :hahaimlaughingattheinternet

[InterfekteR]

its not the actual explosions that is the point, its the percieved threat that is important.

if your country thinks its in danger, it gives up its liberties, if your country thinks its government has just saved it form a percieved threat they are more trusted to get on with doing things that will ultimately harm civil liberties and our basic rights as humans.

would you really want one of these stuck in your body?
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35766
and that is just a mild story about it without all the scary tinfoil hat theories.

[ManFriday]

I've read before about RFID chips and their uses.

I don't get all the tinhat theories, a security service could quite easily track everything you do without implants and things.  Everyone has a mobile phone, they are relatively easy to pinpoint an area some one is in, when you spend with your bank cards, pass through camera's on roads that check your car etc.

[pacmunchkin]

They found the boimbs, that means the system works and all these extra safety procedures are not neccecery. Also, I'll be damned if i'm sticking my laptop in the suitcase, you've all seen how the handlers treat them.

[ManFriday]

Oh yeah, satellite trackers in cars..

Isn't that called Tom Tom Navigation?

[InterfekteR]

the point is the chips are one step closer to an Orwellian 1984 scenario, its a step too far in my oppinion.

where do we draw the line at national security, sure a very strict police state is secure but are the people in it actually living, or are they property of the government?

people should not be scared of thier governments, governments should be scared of thier people.

[Gavin [FAC1983]]

Oh yeah, satellite trackers in cars..

Isn't that called Tom Tom Navigation?

Good one.

[ManFriday]

A hundred years ago people would have said women voting was a step too far, fifty years ago Blacks having rights would have been a step too far..

[-Luke-]

I think you're a little ahead of yourself Jim. I'm a law abiding citzen and I don't feel the slightest be uncomfortable or restricted in my life. It's not like I'm booked into to receive my mircrochip tomorrow.

[InterfekteR]

better ahead of myself than too late and nothing can be done i say.

fair enough i may have an extreme viewpoint, but its a valid concern.